Moran Introduces 'NRA Members' Gun Safety Act'

Northern Virginia Democrat cites Republican polls of NRA members that show support for five measures.

U.S. Rep. Jim Moran, D-Va., on Thursday introduced the NRA Members' Gun Safety Act — five gun safety reforms that the congressman's office says are supported by nearly two-thirds of the Fairfax-based National Rifle Associations' members.

“The NRA as an organization is out of step with its membership on many commonsense gun safety measures. Polling shows nearly two-thirds of NRA members support the five simple ways to improve gun safety included in this bill,” Moran said in a statement.

“The NRA’s absolutist position on gun issues is an impediment to the safety and security of the public. This legislation is designed to highlight that schism, offering popular proposals even NRA members support to prevent more gun-related tragedies.”

Moran's proposal comes nearly a week after the tragic school shootings in Newtown, Conn., which turned the national conversation to gun safety and gun rights.

Moran's office cites research by Republican pollster Frank Luntz as evidence of support among the NRA's membership for the provisions of his bill.

The five provisions, according to a news release:

  • Require background checks for every gun purchase (74 percent NRA member support)
  • Require background checks on gun shop employees (79 percent NRA member support)
  • Prohibit individuals on the terrorist watch list from purchasing firearms (71 percent NRA member support)
  • Require gun owners to report to police when their guns are lost or stolen (64 percent NRA member supports)
  • Establish minimum standards for concealed carry permits (63 percent to 75 percent NRA member support for each standard)

"The NRA has an opportunity to be proactive in the face of the Newtown tragedy, playing a constructive role in protecting the public in ways that do not undermine the 2nd Amendment in the eyes of their own membership," Moran said in his statement.

Moran's announcement comes on the eve of a "major" news conference the NRA plans to hold Friday in Washington.

The organization released a statement this week saying it will make "meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again."

Democratic U.S. Sen. Mark Warner, who has an 'A' rating from the NRA, called the Newtown masssacre a "game changer" and advocated tightening gun laws.

More than 10,000 people in America are killed each year with a firearm, according to Moran's office.

Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 04:23 PM
Despite endless evidence and examples, still the hand-wringers claim that ordinary citizens have no need for AR-15 type weapons, etc...look at how heavily armed these home invaders (who wind up being repulsed by the armed homeowner) are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuhKCiY-lu0 Then of course there were the upstanding Korean-American store owners during the L.A. riots of 1993: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmsKGhLdZuQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRc_FlmW2Jc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgCiC6qTtjs "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.... The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Stephens Smith, November 13, 1787; “The Works of Thomas Jefferson,” Federal Edition (New York and London, G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904-5) Vol. 5
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 04:27 PM
"The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops." James Madison, The Federalist Number 46 January 29, 1788
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 04:29 PM
"A people armed and free forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition and is a bulwark for the nation against foreign invasion and domestic oppression." James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 04:33 PM
Get the picture? The 2nd amendment is NOT about hunting nor mere personal safety from street crime, etc. There is no essential nor operational difference between a typical hunting rifle and an "assault rifle"--only in exterior appearance. Our founders were intent that we be able to meet corrupt government troops/weapons with countervailing force. If anything, civilians should be much more heavily armed than we already are!
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 04:38 PM
"A government resting on the minority is an aristocracy, not a republic, and could not be safe with a numerical and physical force against it, without a standing army, an enslaved press and a disarmed populace." James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President Source: The Federalist No. 46. "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole body of the people except for a few public officials. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them..." George Mason (1725-1792), drafted the Virginia Declaration of Rights, ally of James Madison and George Washington "[W]hen the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually, by totally disusing and neglecting the militia." George Mason (1725-1792), drafted the Virginia Declaration of Rights, ally of James Madison and George Washington Source: from debates during the Virginia state ratifying convention (June 14, 1788), quoted in Elliot’s Debates
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 04:39 PM
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined." Patrick Henry (1736-1799), Virginia's U.S. Constitution Ratification Convention
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 04:59 PM
"[A]rms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. . . Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them." -- Thoughts On Defensive War, 1775 - Thomas Paine
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 05:03 PM
"The powers of the sword, say the minority of Pennsylvania, is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for the powers of the sward are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress have no right to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American.... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or the state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." - Pennsylvania Gazette, February 20, 1788
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 05:10 PM
"The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive." - Noah Webster An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, Philadelphia, 1787
rbud December 26, 2012 at 05:13 PM
Don Joy, we all get your idea. You want to return to the chaos, lawlessness, and uncivility of the 1700's. That means, of course, that the most powerful weapon allowed will be a musket rifle. Or, you could just update and upgrade your thinking to modern times.
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 05:25 PM
We have far more "chaos, lawlessness, and uncivility" in much of our country now than we did then, mainly because of gun-free zones, the breakdown and disintegration of the family due to the Marxist welfare state, and the general contempt for traditional religious morality and restraint. For one example, in the community that Soetoro "organized," the South side of Chcago, where 440 school children have been shot in 2012, in a city with the strictest (and most unconstitutional) gun control laws in the entire land. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=07c_1356456629 Furthermore, our founders would have argued that ordinary citizens be far more heavily armed than we are now, seeing as government forces have an extremely disporportionate array of military hardware and systems, and that Traybamas often show up with fully automatic AK-47s when they are "keeping it real."
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 05:36 PM
"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American . . . . The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." -- The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 05:38 PM
"A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves . . . and include all men capable of bearing arms. . . To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms... The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle." -- "... whereas, to preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them..." - Richard H. Lee, Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer 53, 1788
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 05:39 PM
"... of the liberty of conscience in matters of religious faith, of speech and of the press; of the trail by jury of the vicinage in civil and criminal cases; of the benefit of the writ of habeas corpus; of the right to keep and bear arms.... If these rights are well defined, and secured against encroachment, it is impossible that government should ever degenerate into tyranny." - James Monroe
rbud December 26, 2012 at 06:58 PM
(1) Don Joy, I disagree completely that current times are more chaotic that revolutionary 1700's. To even think so is some combination of backwards thinking and foolishness. There is no Marxist welfare state nor any tyrannical government at hand. That's purely extremists propaganda. We do have socialist elements, which are beneficial to the good of the populace. Anyone who buys insurance, uses the benefits of healthcare facilities and equipment, takes medication, without paying a toll uses a road or bridge they didn't build themselves, and many more, are all examples of socialism that benefit both individuals and the general citizenry. I see nothing wrong with that. I also have no problem with limited welfare assistance when the end result is targeted toward a more productive and healthy citizenry and nation, or just to keep people from starving in the streets.
rbud December 26, 2012 at 06:59 PM
(2) Don Joy, I shutter to think how much worse Chicago might be without their gun controls. What's more significant is that the guns recovered from most crimes come from outside Chicago, which provide an even more compelling reason to have universally applicable and enforced gun controls nationally. I agree that early USA life saw more homes with guns, but that only makes sense because guns were used for hunting for everyday food. We do not have those same needs today, and our gun owning population as a whole is far less responsible toward the use of guns. In this country we have in general a far more casual attitude toward gun ownership and gun use. This insane argument that says "I have a right to own a gun," has translated into "I have a right use a gun as I see fit". Our current gun culture is largely irresponsible, unaccountable and unreasonable. Our gun culture mindset and attitudes must be changed, or else the carnage will get worse.
rbud December 26, 2012 at 07:00 PM
(3) Don Joy, Lastly, your argument regarding the Second Amendment is faulty. The point of the amendment was not about private and personal ownership, even though ownership is by reason included in the statute. That was never its point or purpose. It was about arming a militia to defend the country. The young and financially poor new government could not raise an army adequate to provide defenses everywhere it might be needed, so militias were an important part of our national defense in those days. If you want everyone to own guns because it's your personal preference, just say so without all the fallacious arguments and irrelevant and misplaced quotations.
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 07:07 PM
*yawn* weak, rbud.
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 08:15 PM
"The right of self-defense is the first law of nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and when the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." Blackstone's 1768 "Commentaries on the Laws of England"
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 08:47 PM
"The right of a citizen to keep and bear arms has justly been considered the palladium of the liberties of the republic, since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers, and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them." Joseph Story (1779-1845) U.S. Supreme Court Justice 1811-1845. His Dad was one of the Sons of Liberty who took part in the Boston Tea Party and fought at Lexington & Concord in 1775. The above quote was from 1833
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 09:03 PM
"All persons shall bear arms, and every male person shall have in continual readiness a good musket or other gun, fit for service." Connecticut Gun Code of 1650
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 09:04 PM
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms has been recognized by the General Government; but the best security of that right after all is, the military spirit, that taste for martial exercises, which has always distinguished the free citizens of these States....Such men form the best barrier to the liberties of America" Gazette of the United States October 14, 1789
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 09:06 PM
"To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them..." Richard Henry Lee (1732-1794), Additional Letters From The Federal Farmer, 1788
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 09:17 PM
"While the people have property, arms in their hands, and only a spark of noble spirit, the most corrupt Congress must be mad to form any project of tyranny." Rev. Nicholas Collin, Fayetteville Gazette (N.C.), October 12, 1789 Episcopal pastor, friend of Benjamin Franklin
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 09:34 PM
"Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used and that definite safety rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible." Sen. Hubert Humphrey, Know Your Lawmakers, Guns, Feb. 1960, p. 4
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 09:38 PM
"...By calling attention to a well-regulated militia for the security of the Nation, and the right of each citizen to keep and bear arms, our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy. Although it is extremely unlikely that the fear of governmental tyranny, which gave rise to the Second Amendment, will ever be an important danger to our Nation, the Amendment remains an important declaration of our basic military-civilian relationship, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important." President John F. Kennedy
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 09:40 PM
"If gun laws in fact worked, the sponsors of this type of legislation should have no difficulty drawing upon long lists of examples of crime rates reduced by such legislation. That they cannot do so after a century and a half of trying -- that they must sweep under the rug the southern attempts at gun control in the 1870-1910 period, the northeastern attempts in the 1920-1939 period, and the attempts at both Federal and State levels in 1965-1976 -- establishes the repeated, complete, and inevitable failure of gun laws to control serious crime." Senator Orrin Hatch, Chairman of the Senate Subcomittee on the Constitution (The Making of America, p.695)
Don Joy December 26, 2012 at 09:40 PM
"To prohibit a citizen from wearing or carrying a war arm . . . is an unwarranted restriction upon the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." Arkansas Supreme Court Wilson v. State, 33 Ark. 557, 560, 1878
Locally Involved December 26, 2012 at 09:50 PM
It's ironic that the same people who fear Obama is leading us to a police state are the same people that are glad the NRA is advocating for a police state! LOL
rbud December 26, 2012 at 10:22 PM
Great point. I've always considered the USA to be a well-educated, well-oriented country. But with what I'm hearing from the pro-gun people, and after all the ridiculous, completely illogical rhetoric during the campaigns, and some of the bizarre statements by "educated" people in leadership positions, I am seriously concerned about our people's ability to think and construct intelligent thoughts on any level. Whatever else we are or are not, we are definitely not a well-educated, intellectually capable populace. We are at our core very lazy thinkers, eager to let someone else's agenda control our thoughts. I think some of these posters never had a logical thought in their lives.


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